Joined Tim Skykes Challenge, next day decided too much money and called for refund. Was asked to wait and Tim Skykes father called and gave me 3 months advance to make up mind. I had two deaths in family and couldn’t participate. In January I started with the tapes and quickly decided this was a total rip off. I iimmediately called and requested refund, and was told sorry too late. I explained the situation of advance ano I did not sign agreement and would sign in January. Still was told by Glenn there would be no refund. I went to my bank and they were able to get half of the $5525.00, but they would not give the other half. At this point I decided I had been ripped off big time, and decided Tim Skykes needed the money for his Lambo and lifestyle he promotes. Very sad that such dishonest people are allowed to continue ripping people off. I have joined numerous investment groups, and this is the only one I have felt with that would not refund your money, especially when just starting. The sad result is I paid $2700.00 for a bunch of useless tapes that I returned!